Nick's CJ build part 1

[daniel_buck]

My frame under the 46 has welds and rivets in it. the welds don't look that pretty. I kinda wonder if they still used rivets at the factory just because they weren't sure if the welds would hold? LOL Assuming it's not someone else that's added the welds later on anyway.

[USMC 0369]

My frame under the 46 has welds and rivets in it. the welds don't look that pretty. I kinda wonder if they still used rivets at the factory just because they weren't sure if the welds would hold? LOL

[COLOR="#800000"]This '75 frame also still has parts of it hot riveted together. Weld and riveted both in most places. Must have been some kind of motto. "Them welds look kinda....eh...put some rivets in there too." [/COLOR]

[RAT]

[COLOR=#800000]This '75 frame also still has parts of it hot riveted together. Weld and riveted both in most places. Must have been some kind of motto. "Them welds look kinda....eh...put some rivets in there too." [/COLOR]

Actually the weld and rivet procedure was around for a long time in the ship building trades. Rivets tend to loosen over time, and the small welds held the part tight so it would not move if the rivet came loose. You will see this process on lots of old car and truck frames, and in some industries like big rig manufacture, they still rivet the frames, but more because the frames are case hardened so welding is not good for the metal. I served on an old WWII tender in the Navy that was completely riveted, no welds. The damn thing was built in 1942 and when out at sea in the 80's, in rough weather you could hear, and sometimes sea the hull plates move ever so slightly. I was always thankful that I am a good swimmer...

[aw12345]

those frames are riveted to allow for flex in the frame, one of the reasons those old frames eventually crack. Those hot rivets swage really nice in the frame and are a bitch to get out. Truck frames these days use huck rivets exclusively

[jonah]

I thought about making the frame risers a little higher but since we are keeping is narrow in the front and rear and building a link suspension I doubt there will be any clearance issues as far as up travel. I have 14 inch shocks for the front and 12s for the rear.

Yeah, you will should have the room with links and hydro/air bump stops. I lose a little bit of space with the thickness of the springs over axle and the rubber bump stops I use. It depends a bit on ride height too. The only time I think about it is when driving fast on bumpy dirt roads or in the open desert, which isn't advisable on leaf springs anyway .

What axle/wheel size are you going for?

[RAT]

Sorry man. I lost you in a bet so your gonna have to come get yer shit outa my garage.

[RAT]

Got some more done on the frame today.


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We should have this baby ready to weld into a single unit tonight.

[aw12345]

Nice work Kurt and lil Nicky

[RAT]

Cont...

I like bubbles like this- Up, down, horizontal, vertical. Level in all three dimensions

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Starting the assembly

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Ready to weld. That happens tomorrow. Time for dinner.

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Mmmm Lascari's deli

[aw12345]

Pretty nice jig, I like it

[inVERt'D]

This thread is getting interesting now, and I don't just mean the pizza part!

[RAT]

Pretty nice jig, I like it

Red neck all the way but it works well. Thanks.

[flatout]

That is one stout frame.I like the way you kicked it out to put the mounts inside. It would be perfect for 60s and v8 and 40" tires.

[jonah]

Looking sweet!!

[RAT]

For the most part this frame is done. I still have a tiny bit of welding to do, and as we progress through the build I'm sure some fish plates will be added here or there, but she is ready for a tub.


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Go ahead and laugh. Those blobs hanging down are remnants of tack welds. Or Nick welded that one, I can't remember...

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We've decided to install a one hound dog powered engine... He's excited

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Still shorter than a TJ

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Ba deeb ba deeb ba deeb,,, that's all folks! For this weekend.