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  • Originally posted by Nipple Twister View Post
    Open country rule takes over here......I've seen the rock barriers....move them, go around and go wheelin...no brainer.....
    Pour as many rocks as you like to make it over whatever you like without some Jeep Club whinning about making it too easy, do what ya have to .....they can move them out just as easy as you moved them in.....
    That's one way of looking at this, but is it constructive? Or does it put us in a bad light with the parties involved? Attitudes have to change or we're in for more of this kind of stuff. Tam is doing alot to get this resolved, so keep it positive, please. Thanks.
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    • Originally posted by Nipple Twister View Post
      Open country rule takes over here......I've seen the rock barriers....move them, go around and go wheelin...no brainer.....
      Pour as many rocks as you like to make it over whatever you like without some Jeep Club whinning about making it too easy, do what ya have to .....they can move them out just as easy as you moved them in.....
      And that my friend, is where youre wrong. The closure IS on Regional Park land. If we want to resolve this, we need to work with the Regional Park, which is what Im doing.

      Im meeting with all parties involved (BLM, County, Regional Park Dept and Calico Regional Park) in person next week.

      Ill let you now what our next steps are.

      Tam
      Last edited by JeepGal; 06-05-08, 09:56 PM.
      2002 TJ on 35s a bit of lift with some stuff
      Rock-ItMan all the way around

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      • I see that someone is asking about the barriers. When I saw it almost 4 weeks ago it was the several boulders about 4 to 5 feet around lined up from one side of the trail to the other. They did line them up so that a jeep would have to drive up the side of the trail, but I think that would cause any jeep to roll over. This barrier is right at the bottom of the bypass as it starts up to the top going through the really twisted turns. I hope that made sense for those who have driven it. I don't see how a jeep could go over the boulders as it was only one row deep and I could easily see any jeep high centering on it. Besides, Kodiak has a point, we should abide by what they have closed down, and not contribute to the reason why it was shut down. I am going through my pics from that weekend but I don't think I took any.

        Kodiak, this trail wasn't closed by crazy kids. A Calico Ghost Town employee has confirmed it to me that when they graded the new entrance into Calico Ghost Town, they had the heavy equip opperators go to that side of the property to close the bypass road. This was the cheapest way to keep the unwanteds out of the north campground. The barrier is on Park land therefore trying to appease the Regional Park and come up with a solution that everyone agrees to is our number one goal.
        Last edited by kirkandsylvia; 06-05-08, 05:10 PM. Reason: spelling
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        • Originally posted by kirkandsylvia View Post
          I see that someone is asking about the barriers. When I saw it almost 4 weeks ago it was the several boulders about 4 to 5 feet around lined up from one side of the trail to the other. They did line them up so that a jeep would have to drive up the side of the trail, but I think that would cause any jeep to roll over. This barrier is right at the bottom of the bypass as it starts up to the top going through the really twisted turns. I hope that made sense for those who have driven it. I don't see how a jeep could go over the boulders as it was only one row deep and I could easily see any jeep high centering on it. Besides, Kodiak has a point, we should abide by what they have closed down, and not contribute to the reason why it was shut down. I am going through my pics from that weekend but I don't think I took any.

          Kodiak, this trail wasn't closed by crazy kids. A Calico Ghost Town employee has confirmed it to me that when they graded the new entrance into Calico Ghost Town, they had the heavy equip opperators go to that side of the property to close the bypass road. This was the cheapest way to keep the unwanteds out of the north campground. The barrier is on Park land therefore trying to appease the Regional Park and come up with a solution that everyone agrees to is our number one goal.

          See posts #85-87...complete write up, pictures, and videos.

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          • MJR will be out there to help if it's 115, or 15 below. One of the many reasons I love this group of people is because we don't just talk. If resolution to this is pushed out to mid-July, I'll be there to help.
            Last edited by JeepGal; 06-05-08, 07:30 PM.
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            • Originally posted by Materdaddy View Post
              MJR will be out there to help if it's 115, or 15 below. One of the many reasons I love this group of people is because we don't just talk. If resolution to this is pushed out to mid-July, I'll be there to help.
              Haha... it's very highly possible that Calico will be 115* by mid-July!
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              -Margaret Thatcher

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              • More blah.....

                .....my point is, your preaching to the choir here....unless your prepared to police the thousands of OHV users that have no clue who MJR is you'll be the only ones abiding by the boundries.....
                John & Kristi

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                • Originally posted by Nipple Twister View Post
                  .....my point is, your preaching to the choir here....unless your prepared to police the thousands of OHV users that have no clue who MJR is you'll be the only ones abiding by the boundries.....
                  Its an odd way to agree with me. (preaching to the choir)

                  I wont need to police thousands of OHV users because we intend on coming up with a reasonable resolution that we can all adhere to.

                  This notice is to everyone

                  I am done listening to negativity on this thread. If you can not add to this conversation with something constructive, abstain from posting. If you choose to post something negative, your post will be removed and you may get banned.

                  Tam
                  2002 TJ on 35s a bit of lift with some stuff
                  Rock-ItMan all the way around

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                  • Id like to start a discussion of ideas on how to barricade the area so that no one can enter the Regional Park, while still allowing full access to the bypass.

                    Thanks for your input.

                    Tam
                    2002 TJ on 35s a bit of lift with some stuff
                    Rock-ItMan all the way around

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                    • Telephone polls...like we did on 2n17x

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                      • Originally posted by Desert Jewel View Post
                        Telephone polls...like we did on 2n17x
                        How did that work out? Were they cut and planted upright like posts or were they layed on their sides? Got any pics?
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                        -Margaret Thatcher

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                        • Here ya go:
                          http://www.myjeeprocks.com/forums/sh...ght=2n17x+work

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                          • I Noticed That The Park Already Has R.R.ties For A Boundry, Can't You Bolt Some More Ties Across The Tops, Making It More Of A Fence?

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                            • Great ideas . Keep em coming.

                              I'll check on the availability of railroad ties when I'm up there next week.

                              Tam
                              2002 TJ on 35s a bit of lift with some stuff
                              Rock-ItMan all the way around

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                              • Nice! I wonder if a local supplier would "donate" some railroad ties in exchange for some publicity... or at least give a good price.

                                Those suckers are over 8' long. We'd need a way to transport them.
                                "The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money."
                                -Margaret Thatcher

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