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  • #61
    Originally posted by guardian7 View Post
    Max7, I like your letter, do you mind if I post your letter on my hd4w forum for other off-roaders to use also. http://hd4w.freeforums.org/calico-do...osed-t139.html

    Mark
    Mark,
    Yes, feel free to use the letter, it was a collaboration. Some of the info originally was written by Tam. Use it, add to it, or edit at your leisure.
    Best, Max7
    "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote!" - Benjamin Franklin

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    • #62
      I just got off the phone with San Bernardino County Representative Jesse Flores.

      He was very receptive to helping us reopen the bypass, and hopes to have some resolution by next week. He has referred me to County Regional Park director Tom Potter. I hope to hear from him today yet.

      Ive offered to take them out on the trail, as well as offered our services to block the trail in an appropriate location. He was very very receptive. He also mentioned that he had been innundated with emails (GREAT JOB EVERYONE!)

      Ill post more later.

      Tam
      2002 TJ on 35s a bit of lift with some stuff
      Rock-ItMan all the way around

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      • #63
        that is excellent news to hear Tam. Hope the info next week is just as good for the sake of the Jeepers. To all those that sent emails, keep spreading the news and keep up with the emails.





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        • #64
          Tom Potter's Assistant (Director of Regional Parks) called me. She said that Mr Potter would call me on Monday.

          I reiterated what I told Jesse Flores. I explained the reasons why I thought the closure happened, and offered the manpower to place the barrier at a more appropriate location. - also explained our involvement in the SBNFA AAT program.

          Ill post more when I hear from him next week.

          Tam
          Last edited by JeepGal; 05-30-08, 12:57 PM.
          2002 TJ on 35s a bit of lift with some stuff
          Rock-ItMan all the way around

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          • #65
            Originally posted by JeepGal View Post
            offered the manpower to place the barrier at a more appropriate location.
            SWEET! Count me in! I don't have heavy equipment or anything, but I got 2 hands and a Jeep.
            Last edited by JeepGal; 05-30-08, 12:56 PM.
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            -Margaret Thatcher

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            • #66
              Hey Tam,

              I'm in, let me know when, where, and what to bring....
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              • #67
                I have received my auto response from the supervisor's office. I too am ready to do what is needed to keep this bypass open. Please keep me in mind when we know more.

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                • #68
                  I just got off the phone with Beverly at the Regional Park office.

                  She sent me a map of the area, wanting to know where the bypass was. Her map was a little too simple. It showed the road leading from Doran Canyon to Calico, but not the ridge road we drive.

                  This was my reply to her:
                  Im working on the map you sent.

                  Here is the map I posted on our board:

                  http://www.myjeeprocks.com/forums/ga...ellite_map.jpg

                  Point A is the entrance of the by-pass from Doran Canyon.

                  Point B is the actual by-pass trail that runs along the ridge/cliff line over Doran Canyon.

                  Point C is the Gatekeeper/Lower Doran Canyon.

                  Point D is one of the campgrounds/bathrooms at Calico Ghost Town

                  The trail is noted as a dashed line on your map, it connects Doran Canyon to Calico Regional Park. The actual trail that runs along the ridgeline is not on your map.

                  Im also including a picture of the Doran Canyon Entrance, known as the "Gatekeeper", which is nearly impassable without severe body damange. Even though most will never drive it, it is considered to be Doran Canyons crown jewel. Only the truly brave and experienced drivers will tackle it.

                  http://www.myjeeprocks.com/forums/ga...003_904035.JPG

                  In fact, there was a write-up in the Victor Valley Daily Press newspaper about it yesterday http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/e...p/100_0507.jpg

                  Here is the article:
                  http://www.vvdailypress.com/news/gat..._survived.html

                  Hope that helps!

                  Tam


                  Ill let you guys know more when I hear it.

                  Tam
                  2002 TJ on 35s a bit of lift with some stuff
                  Rock-ItMan all the way around

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by JeepGal View Post
                    I just got off the phone with Beverly at the Regional Park office.

                    She sent me a map of the area, wanting to know where the bypass was. Her map was a little too simple. It showed the road leading from Doran Canyon to Calico, but not the ridge road we drive.

                    This was my reply to her:
                    Im working on the map you sent.

                    Here is the map I posted on our board:


                    Point A is the entrance of the by-pass from Doran Canyon.

                    Point B is the actual by-pass trail that runs along the ridge/cliff line over Doran Canyon.

                    Point C is the Gatekeeper/Lower Doran Canyon.

                    Point D is one of the campgrounds/bathrooms at Calico Ghost Town

                    The trail is noted as a dashed line on your map, it connects Doran Canyon to Calico Regional Park. The actual trail that runs along the ridgeline is not on your map.

                    Im also including a picture of the Doran Canyon Entrance, known as the "Gatekeeper", which is nearly impassable without severe body damange. Even though most will never drive it, it is considered to be Doran Canyons crown jewel. Only the truly brave and experienced drivers will tackle it.


                    In fact, there was a write-up in the Victor Valley Daily Press newspaper about it yesterday http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/e...p/100_0507.jpg

                    Here is the article:

                    Hope that helps!

                    Tam


                    Ill let you guys know more when I hear it.

                    Tam
                    Nice! Good job Tam. I did hear back from the County representative but oonly as a response to me emails. No firm response with any questions oor anything.
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                    • #70
                      Does anybody have a pic of the trail closures? What are the barricades made out of?
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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by Shadly1 View Post
                        Does anybody have a pic of the trail closures? What are the barricades made out of?
                        In the original post it says "the one to the right at the bottom now has several boulders lined up across the trail."

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by Desert Jewel View Post
                          In the original post it says "the one to the right at the bottom now has several boulders lined up across the trail."
                          That just doesn't sound like a barrier to me I know that a little farther up the trail, there is a barrier made with railroad ties. Are there new closure signs at the bottom or just rocks?
                          "The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money."
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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by JeepGal View Post
                            I just got off the phone with Beverly at the Regional Park office.

                            She sent me a map of the area, wanting to know where the bypass was. Her map was a little too simple. It showed the road leading from Doran Canyon to Calico, but not the ridge road we drive.

                            This was my reply to her:
                            Im working on the map you sent.

                            Here is the map I posted on our board:

                            http://www.myjeeprocks.com/forums/ga...ellite_map.jpg

                            Point A is the entrance of the by-pass from Doran Canyon.

                            Point B is the actual by-pass trail that runs along the ridge/cliff line over Doran Canyon.

                            Point C is the Gatekeeper/Lower Doran Canyon.

                            Point D is one of the campgrounds/bathrooms at Calico Ghost Town

                            The trail is noted as a dashed line on your map, it connects Doran Canyon to Calico Regional Park. The actual trail that runs along the ridgeline is not on your map.

                            Im also including a picture of the Doran Canyon Entrance, known as the "Gatekeeper", which is nearly impassable without severe body damange. Even though most will never drive it, it is considered to be Doran Canyons crown jewel. Only the truly brave and experienced drivers will tackle it.

                            http://www.myjeeprocks.com/forums/ga...003_904035.JPG

                            In fact, there was a write-up in the Victor Valley Daily Press newspaper about it yesterday http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/e...p/100_0507.jpg

                            Here is the article:
                            http://www.vvdailypress.com/news/gat..._survived.html

                            Hope that helps!

                            Tam


                            Ill let you guys know more when I hear it.

                            Tam
                            Ask her for a legal description of the land that the county administers. That way we can map the county boundary on a topo map and see where the actual over lap occurs.

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                            • #74
                              shadley1, we all git what yer sayin' but rollin' over the obsticles is not gonn a be good for us. The whole respect thing is in play there. I would like to see something legitamite that says the trail (by-pass) is closed, or open, because if some crazy kids just stacked some rocks to mess with us that would suck... but untill we get some official word otherwise we have to call it closed.

                              as for my post about FJ's and H3's and people paving the trail... I am just having sum fun there, I know they are capable rigs and good people...
                              :gun: my rifle is not illegal, it's just undocumented... :gun:

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                              • #75
                                It would help if someone near Calico could snap a few pictures of the closure.

                                Thanks

                                Tam
                                2002 TJ on 35s a bit of lift with some stuff
                                Rock-ItMan all the way around

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