Panamint Valley Days

[Geebo]

cweed,Thanks for the up date..and Thanks to all involed in the heroic rescue..boy I can only imagine the thoughts going thru their minds going over Chicken Corner ..just a few weeks back we were at the exact spot my fear took over and I got out of the jeep..A Tip to all.. it doesn,t take a tuff guy to ride a shelf road if you have (ANY DOUBTS) of going any further (DON,T)..just my two cents..Thanks again glad everyone will be ok..Geeb

[fourbangeryj]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgd4H...eature=related

Here is another video. Right at the 3 minute mark is the corner. Looks pretty far down if you don't pay attention!
Glad they made it out.

[SAR Jeeper]

I can speak first hand about the cluster F of communications when it comes to multi-agency responses.


What every trip needs is an EMT, HAM, and Emergency Specialist along. I'm taking donations now!

[lakev2]

I have to say I am glad to hear that the end outcome was that everyone made it out. Course once i saw this post I pulled the trigger on buying the front cage addons for the yj and actually got the rear section on saturday.

[cweed]

This whole event will change how we as a club wheel in the future. It was a very eye opening experience to have to go through three different first aid kits and still not have what was needed. I ordered an EMT Firt Responder bag today and will add more to it once it arrives. I also bought some road flares for my jeep today, next is a couple disposable flare guns. Next week comes the mobile HAM radio. Hopefully nothing like this happens again, but if it does, club member or not we will be prepared next time.

I would strongly recommend that everyone take a look at their trail gear. I like many others focused more on parts and tools than safety/ first aid gear. It's a shame to have to go through a Significant Emotional Event like this to drive that point home. I think I can speak for the members in my club that it has been drive home for us.

[rcpilot92]

Actually it rolled further up the hill pass the bridge... we were coming down towards the bridge and Chicken Rock... the first tight left turn as you start decending.

[xjkevin]

it wasnt you that rolled was it Scott, damn thats scary stuff, def. gonna repack my jeep if it ever gets done...glad everyones ok....

[STORMTROOPER]

first aid stuff and HF

Cweed, you mentioned you needed to go through 3 first aid kits to find what was needed. What was it you needed? I want to make sure to carry that in the future.

Someone (i think Igofshn) mentioned that a sat phone or HF radio would be good to have in a situation like this. Did you end up getting one? Or did you think that 2M radios worked out well enough? Just trying to figure out if I need to upgrade my license so I can start working the HF band.

Glad everything came out ok. I saw the rig the next day at PVD and it was majorly banged up. Never seen a vehicle that damaged while the occupants were still in fairly good shape. Pardon me for saying, but thank God.

Thanks for passing on this experience to us, I'm already making improvements to my preparedness.

Oh BTW, we had a scary situation out on Titus Cyn. My son came within 12" of stepping on a baby rattlesnake. We realized after that this potentially deadly incident occurred in a place where we had no cell phone coverage, no repeater coverage, and we were 25 miles from the nearest phone. I want to be much better prepared next time I go out.

Steve

This whole event will change how we as a club wheel in the future. It was a very eye opening experience to have to go through three different first aid kits and still not have what was needed. I ordered an EMT Firt Responder bag today and will add more to it once it arrives. I also bought some road flares for my jeep today, next is a couple disposable flare guns. Next week comes the mobile HAM radio. Hopefully nothing like this happens again, but if it does, club member or not we will be prepared next time.

I would strongly recommend that everyone take a look at their trail gear. I like many others focused more on parts and tools than safety/ first aid gear. It's a shame to have to go through a Significant Emotional Event like this to drive that point home. I think I can speak for the members in my club that it has been drive home for us.

[rcpilot92]

No Kevin it wasn't me... I will be installing the cage next!!

[cweed]

The bandages weren’t large enough to cover the wounds, Scott has some fiber tape available from his kit, but the tape that was in the other kits was difficult to pull off and easily broke as we tried to pull it off. We did have one old roll but the new stuff wasn’t wide enough. We didn’t really have any head dressing, no wrapping materials, no emergency blankets to help keep her warm, no flares either road or otherwise.
The small Wal-Mart first aid kits may work for at home small cuts, but aren’t enough for the trail. You don’t have to go out and buy a huge kit. Just take a look at what you have. Think of the most likely injuries that can happen and stock your kits with extra stuff. Look at your kit, envision a head wound, large cut, broken limb, and then look at your kit again do you have what is needed?
Another question is how many people on the trail know basic first aid and CPR, I trained in both as a Scout leader for many years and am comfortable with it. (Had to look at my card to make sure I still had it, expired). I would strongly recommend people get a basic knowledge of first aid if they are going to be on the trail. Don’t take it for granted that there is help. There is but it may be a long time before it reaches you.

[Navy-Jeepster]

Cweed, you mentioned you needed to go through 3 first aid kits to find what was needed. What was it you needed? I want to make sure to carry that in the future.

Steve

They needed more big bandages or gauze to help cover the head wound.
Most basi first aid kits only have 4 or 5 small bandages, if any.

I have an ammo can that will be made into a kit with gauze rolls and large bandages.
Then the tape that does not stick to skin and some other stuff will be loaded into it also.
We will get a backboard that will collapse into something small that can be carried in a jeep. If we have to give up some room for tools or spare parts, we will for the increase in size of our first aid kits.

Todd

[Nipple Twister]

Amatuer Radio

Glad to hear though it all that it appears everyone involved will be ok, scary stuff....


Using ham radios what 2M freq would you use/monitor in that area?:dunno:

[platnumb4x]

I dont like shelf roads either. The video was enough for me. I'm so glad everyone is OK.

[mkjeepers]

[COLOR="Blue"]I'm sorry to hear of the accident, but glad to hear there were no serious injuries to the driver and passengers. It sounds like a miracle.

I just drove this route a week ago and the trail is very narrow, but safely driveable by narrow vehicles.
(though the JK is 2" wider than a Suburban). Although the chicken corner has a pucker factor it is very doable and can be done safely.

You can get into a pickle if you're not careful, but it dosen't guarantee trouble. I would always use a spotter in areas like this.[/COLOR]

[rexr]

Glad to hear though it all that it appears everyone involved will be ok, scary stuff....


Using ham radios what 2M freq would you use/monitor in that area?:dunno:

For this event Cal4Wheel had a base station set up in camp and were monitoring a simplex channel they designated for the weekend.

The local repeaters in that area that I know of are:
Ridgecrest - 147.000 Plus 100.0PL
Randsburg - 145.340 Minus 100.0PL
Trona - 146.970 Minus 123.0PL

Another thing that I carry is the SPOT. http://www.findmespot.com/en/ which is a personal emergency locator that uses satellites. I allows you to set up a personal rescue team, basically a preset list of friends that will get a text message and or email saying you need help and your GPS location. It also has a 911 button that allows you to call for Emergency Rescue Service.