Comments needed concerning trail closures in Big Bear

[FishPOET]

http://a123.g.akamai.net/7/123/11558...LT2_199510.pdf

We have 30 days to submit comments.
http://data.ecosystem-management.org...?project=38938

I need some time to study the maps to see exactly what is affected. Stay tuned to this thread for updates.

[RAT]

http://a123.g.akamai.net/7/123/11558...LT2_199510.pdf

We have 30 days to submit comments.
http://data.ecosystem-management.org...?project=38938

I need some time to study the maps to see exactly what is affected. Stay tuned to this thread for updates.

I saw the post from greg on yg. Ill check out the maps tonight.

[FishPOET]

Tile 1 proposed action


Current MVUM of Tile 1

[FishPOET]

Tile 2 proposed action


Current MVUM of Tile 2

[sarah]

Is this the place to submit comments?

Submitting Comments
If you wish to submit a comment, please send it to:

https://cara.ecosystem-management.or...?Project=38938
Scott Eliason
Big Bear Ranger District
P.O. Box 290, 41397 North Shore Dr. Hwy 38, Fawnskin, CA, 92333
seliason@fs.fed.us

[FishPOET]

Is this the place to submit comments?

Submitting Comments
If you wish to submit a comment, please send it to:

https://cara.ecosystem-management.or...?Project=38938
Scott Eliason
Big Bear Ranger District
P.O. Box 290, 41397 North Shore Dr. Hwy 38, Fawnskin, CA, 92333
seliason@fs.fed.us

[FishPOET]

Tile 3 proposed action


Current MVUM for tile 3


Losing 2N04X is a terrible blow as it has the most spectacular yellow post campsite on the mountain.

[FishPOET]

Tile 4 proposed action


Current MVUM for tile 4


By closing the northern section of 2N86 we lose a wonderful yellow post site. One of my top 3 yellow post sites on the mountain.

[FishPOET]

Tile 5 proposed action


Current MVUM for tile 5

[USMC 0369]

[COLOR="darkred"]Doug, this may be pre-mature as there is no final decision about closing & opening trails...

Your question about mixed use vs. non-motorized vs. green sticker vs. highway legal only is a big one. I'm not familiar enough will all of the different trails in SBNF to look at a map and see what's going on.

Has there been any discussion concerning the "loss" of yellow post sites? Are they just going to do away with them or move them to other locations? Perhaps they trying to force people to pay for camping to raise revenues.[/COLOR]

[FishPOET]

Yellow Post campsites are temporary. Some get closed. Some get moved. Some have been in the same location for 20 years.

[USMC 0369]

[COLOR="darkred"]I guess I was trying to say, thanks for spelling this out for those of us that don't really know how this will impact us personally.[/COLOR]

[Russ Chung]

Doug,

The [COLOR="seagreen"]GREEN[/COLOR] lines are defined as "rehab an unauthorized/unclassified route". To me, that means that the route remains an illegal/unclassified route, and rehab means to plant trees and place boulders in order to camouflage the trail and prevent motorized vehicles from using it.

[COLOR="red"]RED[/COLOR] (change to admin use), [COLOR="blue"]DARK BLUE[/COLOR] (closed to decom), [COLOR="seagreen"]GREEN[/COLOR] (rehab) and [COLOR="yellow"]YELLOW[/COLOR] (decom) mean that those routes will be closed to motorized vehicles.

Only the [COLOR="cyan"]LIGHT BLUE[/COLOR] routes are defined as "convert to trail". The only routes I saw in [COLOR="cyan"]LIGHT BLUE[/COLOR] were on Tiles 4 & 5 on the south side of Big Bear Lake.

Russ

[FishPOET]

The pdf states "restore 33 miles of unauthorized routes" but you are correct, Restore them to what?

[Russ Chung]

"Restore" could mean to restore the route to its original untraveled state--untouched by motor vehicle tracks.