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    I am looking at the arb rdcka compressor to run my locker and for on board air uses. Just wondering what people think. This is the larger one that they make. Thank for any input on reliability functionality and what ever else.
    '79 cj7, SOA. shackle reverse, custom cage, flow master, holly carb, 35" maxxis tires, custom bumpers and rockers, dana 44's locked, bead locks

  • #2
    Define "on board air" uses. You'll be able to air up tires (slowly), but you can rule out air tools with that setup.
    Jeff
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    • #3
      I would love to be able to use air tools but, I didn't realize it was even an option from a small 12v compressor. Maybe it's not. I don't want an air tank. I like my stuff to be as ready to go as possible and not to have to fill any thing extra to be prepared. Thats why I thought he compressor was he way to go. Is there a better option then the one I was looking at? Thanks for any input
      '79 cj7, SOA. shackle reverse, custom cage, flow master, holly carb, 35" maxxis tires, custom bumpers and rockers, dana 44's locked, bead locks

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      • #4
        You don't carry or "fill" the air tank - you mount it and use the compressor to fill it, then draw from the tank.
        Jeff
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        • #5
          I think the big questions are: How long do you want to wait to air up, do you want to use air tools and/or are you just planning on running your lockers with the air set-up.

          Many go with a York set-up such as the one described on Kilby Enterprises web page. They run air tools, lockers and air up all 4 tires before I can even get 1 tire aired up with my ViAir 12v compressor (thanks again for it Michael, I use it often!).

          Kilby is a reputable company with consumers all over MJR (just ask). But that doesn't mean you HAVE to get everything from them. I think Jeff (Old Fart) put his own system together from parts other than Kilby. Erik (Nailer) may have put his together from other parts as well. There are a lot of guys that know about this set-up.

          York compressors are pretty cheap from a scrap yard. Check this article, and look around some on the internet. I think you'd be happier with it. I'm putting my system together soon.
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          • #6
            DV's got it right - I bought the bracket from Brad (Kilby), got the compressor and tank from a yard and pretty much put the rest together from the local industrial supply house. In the time I've had it (almost 10 years), the only issue I've ever had was blowing off one of the small lines, that run to the guage in the cab of the YJ.
            Jeff
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            • #7
              thanks for the info. those kilby type systems look great. i'm not sure what i'm going to go with yet. A system basically for the lockers and maybe tires or one with more uses (and cost). There are people who run some sort of high pressure tank for filling tires. I don't know if they regulated down for lockers or not. But these tanks must be filled some where where they can put high pressure in them not just the pressure you can build with a small compressor. I've heard people rave about them because they can fill their tires so quickly.
              '79 cj7, SOA. shackle reverse, custom cage, flow master, holly carb, 35" maxxis tires, custom bumpers and rockers, dana 44's locked, bead locks

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              • #8
                Originally posted by cannon View Post
                thanks for the info. those kilby type systems look great. i'm not sure what i'm going to go with yet. A system basically for the lockers and maybe tires or one with more uses (and cost). There are people who run some sort of high pressure tank for filling tires. I don't know if they regulated down for lockers or not. But these tanks must be filled some where where they can put high pressure in them not just the pressure you can build with a small compressor. I've heard people rave about them because they can fill their tires so quickly.
                I think you are referring to a system similar to this:


                Which I've also heard rave reviews about. Although I've never heard of running lockers from it; I'm sure it can be done.
                The critical downfall I see to using this set-up however; is that once the tank is depleted (for instance the need to use some air tools on the trail) then it's done (and if you're running your lockers off from it... well) With a York set-up the tank can be refilled as long as your engine is running. A guy I know here has an electric motor hooked to his York, so he doesn't need to run the engine to fill the air tank.
                If you want to talk cost, lets look at features VS cost ok?



                Data taken from:

                http://www.powertank.com/products/productID/13
                http://jeep.off-road.com/jeep/articl....jsp?id=261434
                http://www.4wd.com/productdetails.aspx?pid=73252

                Just trying to help, I know how much it sucks to buy something and then just replace it later on because it's not really what you wanted. I'm a MASTER at wasting money.
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                • #9
                  that system looks interesting. I don't think I can drop the 1200 or so on the pre built kilby set up. But piecing something together like this looks just my style. How has your system been for reliability?
                  '79 cj7, SOA. shackle reverse, custom cage, flow master, holly carb, 35" maxxis tires, custom bumpers and rockers, dana 44's locked, bead locks

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by cannon View Post
                    that system looks interesting. I don't think I can drop the 1200 or so on the pre built kilby set up. But piecing something together like this looks just my style. How has your system been for reliability?
                    I'd have to defer to Jeff, who mentioned his set-up has been going strong for 10 years. I certainly wont be sending Kilby a check for $1200 that's for sure. But I got my compressor from a friend who had a spare, and he got it for $35 I think. I'm in need of a lot more to finish my set-up...searching for a tank right now.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Old Fart View Post
                      DV's got it right - I bought the bracket from Brad (Kilby), got the compressor and tank from a yard and pretty much put the rest together from the local industrial supply house. In the time I've had it (almost 10 years), the only issue I've ever had was blowing off one of the small lines, that run to the guage in the cab of the YJ.
                      I did the same thing. Sourced as much as I could from places other than Kilby and bought the final touches and bracket from him. Worked out great, and at ~$500 (still higher than most who do it part by part) was a great deal cheaper than his $1200 kit! I have some pics on my website:

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                      • #12
                        I bought a serpantine pulley york that looked like it was new off ebay for $60. then I bought the bracket from kilby for $120 and pieced the rest together. Still about $250, but it's possible to do it again for that price.
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                        • #13
                          I used my stock A/C pump, any junk yard will work. Mine is a Sanden. I run an airtool oiler to keep it moderately lubed. Then i plumbed up a whole air system. 3 gal air tank sourced from a big rig junk yard (air brake tank) and quick disconnects, pressure switch, in cab gauge, and water separator.

                          All in all, a super fun project, and has made my jeep very capable. With the hand throttle and the tank, I can run air tools fine, and air up any tires I want quickly, as well as even pop a bead on if I let the tank build up pressure.

                          The setup takes longer to make, but its well worth it in my opinion.

                          Lots of helpful write-ups on the internet just google.

                          -CJ

                          edit: a helpful site with more links.
                          http://www.visi.com/~bsimon/jeep/my_air.html
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by cjarnesen View Post
                            I used my stock A/C pump, any junk yard will work. Mine is a Sanden. I run an airtool oiler to keep it moderately lubed. Then i plumbed up a whole air system. 3 gal air tank sourced from a big rig junk yard (air brake tank) and quick disconnects, pressure switch, in cab gauge, and water separator.
                            I did basically the same thing. If you use the Sanden you must use a drip oiler or the Sanden will overheat and destroy itself.

                            This option is not so expensive it just takes a little figuring out.

                            When it comes to airing up I can do all 4 tires in about the same time it takes an electric pump to do 1.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by cjarnesen View Post
                              3 gal air tank sourced from a big rig junk yard (air brake tank)
                              Ooooh I gotta find one of those things locally... thanks for the tip!!
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