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  • #16
    The thing is that to get on big stuff you want to go slow to get on top of it. Ya remember 2n06x Scott where you was bashing in to rocks. That is probably where yotr ring gear started to give in

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    • #17
      Well maybe I need to just bite the bullet and re-gear. I can't do lockers right now for sure, so my question is...

      Can I go to 4.88's right now with my current D30(open)/D44(LSD) and add lockers at a later date without setting up the gears again? Or do I have a Series 3 carrier with the 3.73 and I need a Series 4 for the 4.88's? (Rookie when it comes to gearing)
      My Jeep cost's me more than my wife...

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      • #18
        I noticed when I had my manual with 3:73's and 33's, that when going downhill, I could not go slow enough...sometimes, even standing on the brake would not help.

        And stalling is another issue altogether. Chris still complains about that when driving my Jeep.

        Going to 4: 88's made a HUGE difference.

        But until you regear, why not try a hand throttle? Simple simple install. Allows you to get the rpms up without taking your foot off the brake

        Good luck

        Tam
        Last edited by JeepGal; 09-01-09, 12:03 PM.
        2002 TJ on 35s a bit of lift with some stuff
        Rock-ItMan all the way around

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        • #19
          You can reuse the current carriers. For the front you have the right carrier 3.73 and numerically larger.
          For the Dana 44 you can use a thick gear set, the ones that they use for Rubicons

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          • #20
            Originally posted by aw12345 View Post
            You can reuse the current carriers. For the front you have the right carrier 3.73 and numerically larger.
            For the Dana 44 you can use a thick gear set, the ones that they use for Rubicons
            There is a guy in the paper (I don't know him) who does them for $275 an axle! Not bad.
            http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/pts/1333118039.html

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            • #21
              For crawling you will get far more bang for your buck if you regear your Tcase. From 3.73's to 4.88s is only about a %10 gear reduction. But if you do regear your Tcase from a 2:1 to a 4:1 you can get nearly a %60 reduction. It should cost about the same as paying someone to regear both axles.
              Those left standing
              Will make millions
              Writing books on ways
              It should have been
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              • #22
                You want both or spend the big coin and buy an atlas or stack 3 or 4 speed transfercase. If you have a rubicon or TJ with the 4 speed automatic Advance adapters makes a nifty reduction unit that bolts in place of the auto trany tail housing kinda like a klune. The bummer is that its only available for the 4 speed auto. For TJ's or YK's a klune or a terra low is the way to go. Combined with some nice gears your crawl ratio would be in the 90 to 100 to 1 range

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                • #23
                  I wheel 3.07's open/open w/ 33's

                  yeah its a dog, if your racing light to light. but hey i seem to get where most of the big boys with the nice toys do ( i hope im not setting myself up to be stranded somewhere) My advice... wheel it, i slip the clutch a bit, but still running strong after 3 years. Run the napa clutch, nothing special, and a new one is an afternoon job, and $200. Put that in your pipe and smoke it Auto boys. I dunno if 'lug' is really the case. my 4.0 thinks its a tractor, and really likes 1k-3k. I guess i do cheat by using 4 low most of the time, but hey. 3rd gear in low = 1st gear in high range. So you still have somewhere to shift, both up and down. Going down a steep decent? push in the clutch and let yourself down with the brakes. if things get funky you can (hopefully) just let the clutch out and power out of it.

                  Also if you are re- gearing, ditch the lsd and go with an open carrier. Much easier to just add a lunchbox locker later.

                  Oh yeah and post #69 for me!!!
                  Last edited by 2blk2drs; 08-31-09, 08:38 PM. Reason: post 69
                  An XJ will always cost you less then any girl ever will, and you will always know when the spark is gone.

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                  • #24
                    Sorry, I'm not trying to insult you, but that's some misinformation.

                    3.07 and open differentials will not get you where 100 to 1 and lockers will. Going slow, letting your tires find traction and picking your way through the rocks will get you further, safer and with less damage.

                    And you never want to free wheel "down a steep decent". If you stall while going down hill, then you're not geared low enough. If you do stall going down something steep, leave the clutch out and hit the starter. If your starter won't engage with the clutch out, fix it so it does.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Double AA View Post
                      Sorry, I'm not trying to insult you, but that's some misinformation.

                      3.07 and open differentials will not get you where 100 to 1 and lockers will. Going slow, letting your tires find traction and picking your way through the rocks will get you further, safer and with less damage.

                      And you never want to free wheel "down a steep decent". If you stall while going down hill, then you're not geared low enough. If you do stall going down something steep, leave the clutch out and hit the starter. If your starter won't engage with the clutch out, fix it so it does.
                      Do you have some info on fixing the starter so you can bump it with the clutch out?
                      My Jeep cost's me more than my wife...

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Red Heep View Post
                        Do you have some info on fixing the starter so you can bump it with the clutch out?

                        I don't have a TJ and I'm sure that someone that does will post up, but I'm sure there's a switch that engages off your clutch pedal that will need to be wired open.

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                        • #27
                          Search mjr. Materdaddy did a writeup and some one else explained how on some years you can just remove a fuse.
                          Those left standing
                          Will make millions
                          Writing books on ways
                          It should have been
                          -Incubus "Warning"

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Double AA View Post
                            Sorry, I'm not trying to insult you, but that's some misinformation.

                            3.07 and open differentials will not get you where 100 to 1 and lockers will. Holy No Way Batman! Going slow, letting your tires find traction and picking your way through the rocks will get you further, safer and with less damage. This is universal for all wheeling, 'cept mud'n'sand
                            And you never want to free wheel "down a steep decent". If you stall while going down hill, then you're not geared low enough. If you do stall going down something steep, leave the clutch out and hit the starter. If your starter won't engage with the clutch out, fix it so it does.
                            if you are in between gears i see no problem with letting the jeep freewheel for a bit, it can be more precise to use the brakes, as well as setting up a bias frt. vs. rear. if you were to stall, just let the clutch back out and the jeep will start. I dunno, maybe im just a lucky bastage? :beer: hope to see you on the trail :beer:
                            An XJ will always cost you less then any girl ever will, and you will always know when the spark is gone.

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                            • #29
                              I too have 4:10s and 33s with a stock transfer case. I have replaced two clutches but I have 192,000 miles on it. It is all about knowing the vehicle and your own limitations. I wish it was geared a bit lower but I usually find my limits before I find the vehicle's limits. Take it easy on the skinny pedal and you will get through the rough stuff without breaking parts.
                              Never the last trail!:cactus:

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by OU812 View Post
                                Search mjr. Materdaddy did a writeup and some one else explained how on some years you can just remove a fuse.
                                Remove fuse = 98+ TJ
                                Separate connector (or fancy switch) 97... Both sets of info are contained in THIS thread.

                                I also wheel with 3.07s and 33" tires, although will be moving up to 4.56 some day when I have some more coin. I am just used to smelling clutch on hard trails, and I cannot take some of the lines I probably could if I were geared better, but I make it through most moderate trails just fine.
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