Burnt Trails List?

[Kodiak Spirit]

how about matt's second annual Holcomb creek BBQ? we can do that anywhere...

[FishPOET]

My local club had planned on running Cleghorn this month. Who would one call for status verification?

http://www.fs.fed.us/r5/sanbernardino/

Arrowhead Ranger Station
28104 Highway 18
P.O. Box 350
Skyforest, CA 92385
(909)382-2782 (voice)

Cajon Ranger Station
1209 Lytle Creek Road
Lytle Creek, CA 92358
(909) 382-2850 (voice)

[steelman]

http://www.fs.fed.us/r5/sanbernardino/

Arrowhead Ranger Station
28104 Highway 18
P.O. Box 350
Skyforest, CA 92385
(909)382-2782 (voice)

Cajon Ranger Station
1209 Lytle Creek Road
Lytle Creek, CA 92358
(909) 382-2850 (voice)

Thank you!

[Mitch]

Bob,

There is still "caution tape" and a barricade across the trail head at Cleghorn & 15 Fwy. There is no reason that this trail should be closed, but it is. The mountains have been dry and fire prone for over a year and trail users haven't started recent fires. When OUR trails open up, I'll post it.

[Old Fart]

Mitch,

Don't know what you consider "recent", but the Old Fire (late 2003) was caused by a careless off-roader (no spark arrestor), and that one had 11.6 million in direct costs (and about a billion in total costs).

Have a little more patience, we may open the forest as early as next week (as soon as I have anything official, I promise MJR will be the first to know)

In the meantime, everyone needs to respect the closure.

[FishPOET]

There is no reason that this trail should be closed, but it is.

I don't always agree with the decisions that the SBNF makes. I respect their temporary closures. The SBNF has a long history of re-opening areas in a timely manner once their staff weighed all the impact factors involved.

[Old Fart]

Well, "we" could always use the method that most other National Forests use. Close everything for high fire danger season, close every trail once it gets any snow on it, close every trail that's rain rutted......

[Desert Jewel]

You tell 'em Jeff!! LOL I'll stick to Calico, Stoddard Wells, Johnson Valley, and El Mirage while you forest workers make it SAFE for me to travel on the trails in the SBNF again

[Old Fart]

I'm still upset that management didn't consider my request to put the ordinance back on the AH-1 (I even offered to supply the bolts)

[mrchips]

Heard today on the local news that the SBNF has been re-opened, as to some of the 4x4 trails ,no clue

[Old Fart]

Look in the "SBNF Closed" thread mrchips

[Desert Jewel]

This is the latest list from the SBNF website:

Butler 2 Fire - Road, Trail and Recreational Facility Closures.
Butler Peak Lookout
Grays Peak Trail & Trailhead
Hanna Flat Trail
Hanna Flat Campground
Big Pine Flat Campground
Grays Peak Group Campground
Ironwood Group Campground
Big Pine Flat Group Campground
Little Bear Springs Trail Camp
1W17 Redonda Ridge OHV Route
2N06X
3N11
2N13 Snowslide and spur roads / Trails
3N14 and spur roads / Trails - Closed from Fawnskin to 3N16, Access to Horse Springs / Shay Mountain area is via Bowen Ranch Road, or High Road via Lucerne Valley or 3N16.
3N16 - Closed from Holcomb Creek Crossing (3N93) to Green Valley Lake Road
3N93 Holcomb Creek
Pacific Crest Trail - Big Bear Area- The PCT will remain closed from the 3N16/Holcomb Creek crossing on the west side (approx. 2 miles northeast of Crab Flats), to 2N09 (Polique Canyon Rd.) . Little Bear Springs trail camp is closed to public use, due to Butler 2 Fire. A PCT trail reroute is being developed.

Grass Valley Fire - Road Closures

2N34 from Junction of 2N37 to Forest boundary
2N34A from Forest boundary to 2N34

Slide Fire - Road, Trail and Recreational Facility Closures

1W17 Redonda Ridge OHV Route
2W07 from 3N34 Junction to Fisherman’s Campground
Fredalba Trail from Forest boundary
2N13 from Green Valley Campground to Fawnskin (3N14) (overlap Butler 2 closure)
2N13D from intersection with 2N13 to Crafts Peak
2N16 from the Green Valley Campground to its terminus
2N19 (including spurs 2N19A, 2N19B, and 2N19C) from intersection with Green Valley Lake Road near Camp Cedar Crest to Meadow Lane near the Green Valley Campground
2N33Y from 3N16 to Tent Peg Group Camp
3N16 from Green Valley Lake Road to Holcomb Creek Crossing
3N34B from 3N16 to its terminus
Green Valley Campground
Crab Flats Campground
Fisherman’s Group Campground
Tent Peg Group Campground

[miguelitojeep97]

http://www.fs.fed.us/r5/cleveland/re...sure-map.shtml
looks liek the Corral Canyone area just where our trails are are still closed. Possibly till March! I cant wait that long! JV for thanksgiving

[sarah]

Thanks for all of the useful information, everyone.

This thread has been cleaned up, and off-topic posts have been moved. In the future they will be deleted - please help keep this board clean and tidy!

[brokenujoint]

i just got back from big bear today. rattlesnake canyon was closed, the trail head near there where the city dump site is(sorry dont know the trail number) is gated. went over to holcolm trail 3n16 and its open. went over to john bull 3n10 and I ran it.. its open, 3n32 is open as well. started to get chilly so that was a day for me.

john bull was pretty fun today. a couple of other jeeps were in there. other than that i didnt see a single wheeler no where. i ran JB backwards and it was pretty fun. hadnt run it in a yr or so and i think that its a bit more challenging now.