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  • #31
    Originally posted by sarah View Post
    I started an online petition, since the Johnson Valley petition seemed to be very successful. Please sign! http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/granitemountain/
    Done!
    Best, Max7
    "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote!" - Benjamin Franklin

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    • #32
      I found this map while doing some research on Death Valley. I seen a similar map on one of Sarah’s links for wind turbines but this is for solar sites.
      http://www.deathvalley.com/dv/images...5x11_solar.pdf
      Check out .

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      • #33
        Good news! K-Frog has responded to us and we're working on setting up a radio interview with Rick!

        Please don't forget to submit your comments to the BLM:
        eseehafe@blm.gov
        Last edited by sarah; 04-03-08, 12:43 PM.
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        • #34
          I'm trying to find info on what it means for the actual sites they put this on. I know it gives right of way to these projects, but does it close the area off completely? Will it have any effect on energy costs to local homeowners? I've seen these windmill sites off the 5 in central California and they do take up a big chunk of land.

          I keep thinking about the radio towers and relays on Santiago Peak(Saddleback Mountain) in OC. Individually, they are private property but they each take up a really small footprint. You can still drive to, through and around them and it's pretty interesting. The impact is small. Are we talking about something similar or is this just going to be a fence blocking off hundreds of acres at a time?
          "The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money."
          -Margaret Thatcher

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          • #35
            Please Read - New Public Meeting Date

            [COLOR="Red"]NEWS ALERT

            I just received a post card from the San Bernardino County Planning commission anouncing a public meeting for the Granite Mountain Wind Energy Project

            Date: April 29
            Time: 6:00 PM to 8:00 PM
            Location: Granite Hills High School gymnasium
            22900 Esaws Rd
            Apple Valley, CA 92307

            Please, all High Desert MJR members try to attend and let's get the word out. Wouldn't it be great to fill the Gym with unhappy people??:angry:[/COLOR]
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            • #36
              Ooo! I just got the mail and we received these too. Probably only because we're on the mailing list from being at the last meeting though.

              Needless to say, we'll be there. I'll get a roll call going soon. Time for bed!
              :gun:'99 TJ Sport:gun:

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              • #37
                I will be in Idaho that weekend. But I'm with ya in spirit! Take the fight to em! Bring hand grenades and cluster bombs and...

                wait...







                wrong forum...sorry. Wish I could attend...
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                • #38
                  I beleive I'll be out of town, but if I'm wrong about that I'll be there. Nick, what if I drop a couple of F bombs for ya?
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                  • #39
                    Yep just got mine too. I noticed that the card stated written documents will become part of the public record. If other members who can't make it to the meeting want to write a short, civil, letter then pass it to someone who will be attending.
                    Best, Max7
                    "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote!" - Benjamin Franklin

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by sarah View Post
                      Good news! K-Frog has responded to us and we're working on setting up a radio interview with Rick!
                      Any info on that K-Frog interview?
                      Best, Max7
                      "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote!" - Benjamin Franklin

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Max7 View Post
                        Any info on that K-Frog interview?
                        Best, Max7
                        I will pm you.
                        :gun:'99 TJ Sport:gun:

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                        • #42
                          There was a meeting notice in today's Daily Press.
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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by rat patrol View Post
                            I beleive I'll be out of town, but if I'm wrong about that I'll be there. Nick, what if I drop a couple of F bombs for ya?
                            F-Bombs might get us labelled as "radicals" or "offensive"... so just pull the wiring from the heavy equipment if it ever shows up to start the construction k? You know how to do that stuff.
                            [COLOR="darkred"]"Death Smiles at Everyone... Marines Smile Back."
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                            • #44
                              Opposed, and concerned!

                              Originally posted by Shadly1 View Post
                              I'm trying to find info on what it means for the actual sites they put this on. I know it gives right of way to these projects, but does it close the area off completely? Will it have any effect on energy costs to local homeowners? I've seen these windmill sites off the 5 in central California and they do take up a big chunk of land.

                              I keep thinking about the radio towers and relays on Santiago Peak(Saddleback Mountain) in OC. Individually, they are private property but they each take up a really small footprint. You can still drive to, through and around them and it's pretty interesting. The impact is small. Are we talking about something similar or is this just going to be a fence blocking off hundreds of acres at a time?
                              The City of Apple Valley is stated to be in a "Sphere of Influence". These 28 wind mills will NOT help The Town of Apple Valley in any marginally measurable way! But they will cost you your Tax dollars! The PRIVATE "Granite Wind LLC" will stand to make a lot of money. The power that the wind mills generate AT PEAK will be put on the Southern California grid to be distributed throughout Southern California and produce less than 1% of needed power, if that. Furthermore If the wind does not blow, the wind mills will NOT provide any power. Replacing your light bulbs OR reducing hot water use equals the amount in saved energy than the proposed project could produce. This is our public land that we would give away, This will create a precedence for all to know that we do not care about our access to our land! Remember this is only the beginning if we don't stand up now there are hundreds of other similar shelfed projects waiting for clearance at your and my expense!
                              We need to revisit Nuclear, Coal, Natural Gas and refine their already proven technology and cost effectiveness. More later-
                              Best, Max7
                              "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote!" - Benjamin Franklin

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                              • #45
                                Preach on Max7!!
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