What would you do in a rollover?

[Guest]

Wow! Wasn't aware. To think I bought this for fun with the family and I may have put them in arms danger!

What about wheel spacers? I have heard about those.

[inVERt'D]

Wow! Wasn't aware. To think I bought this for fun with the family and I may have put them in arms danger!

What about wheel spacers? I have heard about those.

Ask the voices

[Guest]

They said to ask me what your address is and where you work. Don't know why.

[inVERt'D]

They said to ask me what your address is and where you work. Don't know why.

Don't let those voices get you in wreck. :wink: I have no personal experience with with those spacers, but I could see how they could fail and leave you without a 4th wheel when you need on most.

[Guest]

Don't let those voices get you in wreck. :wink: I have no personal experience with with those spacers, but I could see how they could fail and leave you without a 4th wheel when you need on most.

I have ran them in the past on quads. Worked well. I thought I saw them at 1.5" which would make them 3" width. Not bad.

Is it safe to assume one of the reasons people go with the Ford 8.8 is it is widder? Besides disc brakes?

[Kodiak Spirit]

most people go 8.8 for the strength and the disc brakes. the width isn't that big a deal. I don't think wheel spacers are the answer to the rollover 'problem' and sadly, building a mondo cage just raises the center of gravity on yer rig. The rollover thing hyas come to light because a few of us are doing more challenging trails, or we are hitting the same old trails with reckless abandon. I know my flop was really because I was being an idiot, Max7 was there to spot me, but I ignored him and didn't stop to stack a few rocks... I just wanted to hammer down and it bit me in the ass. (there Max, you prolly thought I didn't notice) I was surprised when it did happen, but if I had been careful I would not have flopped. That is not always the case, but I know some of these flops and rolls are because of 'us' ignoring our rigs, our spotters, or our own guts. Your jeep is a safe fun family thing, don't get freaked out!

Now I have been behind someone with an XJ that had wheel spacers, and watched his right rear just roll out from under him at speed after coming down the backside of Arrowhead. He almost kept going right off the road and would have totaled his rig no doubt, if the road did not have a 2' raised soft dirt berm on that side. it was crazy bad, but could have been worse. A good roll cage does not have that type of negative potential.

[USMC 0369]

[COLOR="Sienna"]In response to the topic of this thread...

First I'd say it...

Then I'd do it... :poop:[/COLOR]

[Guest]

[color="sienna"]in response to the topic of this thread...

First i'd say it...

Then i'd do it... :poop:[/color]

lmao!

[New2image]

I have running 1" wheel spacers for over a year It as with all jeep modifications need to be checked on a regular basis. If unchecked will give you grief.
But you should be under your jeep after every run anyway right?

[New2image]

Wow! Wasn't aware. To think I bought this for fun with the family and I may have put them in arms danger!

You are getting in to deep on this subject!!! This Sport of ours is the Greatest on you will ever encounter,Hell MY DAUGHTER AT 17 rather hang with her dad and wheel than spend the weekend at the mall hanging with her friends and she can probably out wheel alot of my buddies, BTW she is driving the Rubicon it the Jeepers jamboree this year, I am riding sally with a 52. The only thing I need to bring is a can of Whoop Ass to keep the cowboys off!! LOL:whip:

Also last but not least is the friendshps you build while offroad these will last a lifetime.

[Guest]

You are getting in to deep on this subject!!! This Sport of ours is the Greatest on you will ever encounter,Hell MY DAUGHTER AT 17 rather hang with her dad and wheel than spend the weekend at the mall hanging with her friends and she can probably out wheel alot of my buddies, BTW she is driving the Rubicon it the Jeepers jamboree this year, I am riding sally with a 52. The only thing I need to bring is a can of Whoop Ass to keep the cowboys off!! LOL:whip:

Also last but not least is the friendshps you build while offroad these will last a lifetime.

Fair enough. We did add a few support in the rear and will tackle the front cage later. All is good!

[Jeeperator]

I heard that cal4w is taking that trail off the schedule from now on since they had a rollover the last 3 years on that trail. One of my first group trail runs with my jeep ended up in a guy dyeing because he brought a vehicle that wasnt running right and was not up to the easy to moderate trail we were on.Im no expert but id be willing to say most deadly offroad encounters happen in hilly and steep mountianside situations. So if you dont have better rop than stock maybe rethinking that steep hilly trail to a safer flater not so steep trail.

[inVERt'D]

I would take my kids out wheeling without hesitancy; when I built my cage, they were the main things I had in mind. Is it completely safe? No, but I think it's reasonably safe, probably safer than getting on the pavement on a rainy day. I'm not trying to scare anyone--it's just very important to understand our vehicles' limitations as well as our own.

I'm something of a risk taker; I guess everyone here probably is. Heck, I do most of my wheeling alone; the people who are trying to make the world so "safe" are ruining it. A frikin maximum security prison should be the safest place in the world, but it sure ain't, and it ain't a nice place to be.

Frankly, I was shocked at how shocked people were at that rollover. Backing up on a hill, whether you intended to or not, can be very risky; such a rollover can easily occur in any vehicle, and often starts with a slide or bounce (as in the video).

What makes hills and mountains especially risky is the number of times you're likely to roll--same with going 80mph. A flop is nothing compared to a hard roll. BTW, USMC 0369, I think you'd say it, but I don't think you;'d do it unless you were hurt real bad.

[Desert Jewel]

Ron, I believe in your intro you said you were transitioning into Jeeping from quads/dirt bikes. If that's the case, your kids in seat belts in the Jeep are going to be safer any given day then when they were riding a quad or dirt bike. Just my :2:

Just teach them the basics of keeping their arms inside the Jeep...teach them that when you are going thru an obstacle to hold onto the lap belt of their seat belt. If you are consistant in saying "hold on" or something to that effect when they need to, they will eventually learn to do it automatically because they'll feel the difference in the way the Jeep moves.

[Matt2001TJ]

It can happen to any of us

1. pull the plugs, crank the oil out of the cylinders and make sure stand clear
2. reinstall the plugs
3. check all fluid levels
4. start engine and smoke out the canyon

1 through 4...thats it. I Agree,... Remember the fire and earthquake drills as a kid in school? Yepp,... practice what to do and what not to do for sure even more so with the kids. When I was a teenager in Colorado in the late 70s I flipped and rolled a 1953 willys jeep 3 times. In 1991 I totaled out my 1975 Plymouth Trail Duster 4x4 up in the Cleveland national forest and the only reason I did not go all the way down the canyon was because two large trees gave me and my rig a sudden stop in which I got some broken ribs. Two and a half years ago I flopped my TJ on it's side and did not get hurt at all down at Truck haven. Bottom line, this summer my TJ is getting some stuff added to the roll bars because you just never know what can happen. Let that video be an awakening for ALL of us. And for those that want to think something negative about me or anyone else that has done these things just because it has not happened to them yet can think again. It can happen to anyone. ...Matt...