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[Desert Jewel]

Something else came up so I won't be there. Have a great time!

[Roger]

gonna be in big bear for thanksgiving. it will be the first time on the trails for me. if anyones got any trips going let me know, i would love to hook up, Rod.

If my Jeep is back on the road, Friday may work for me. Although my jeep is not set up yet for a John Bull Run, so I would have to pass on that.

Don't forget that you have to purchase an Adventure Pass (read tax).

Also, Do you all normally pack a lunch?

Jeep: "Just Empty Every Pocket"

[Roger]

is anyone staying up there, or is this a day trip. i know it might way too late to suggest this, but are there any camp grounds still available up there?

Holcomb Valley should be open, Serrano (on the lake) is probably open but it's really expensive. You should be able to call the SBNF Discovery center for what's open.

Jeep: "Just Empty Every Pocket"

[Jr. Bonner]

just following this thread........when the details are figured out I will be there. remember this is my first time out so I dont know what trails my jeep is capable of but Im just happy to be going

[brokenujoint]

I ran john bull last week and a stock 4 dr jk was making its way through. if that can do it, ANY shortwheel based jeep can get through as long as its functional able to get up there. finese finese finese!

[Matt2001TJ]

Something else came up so I won't be there. Have a great time!

Hmmm, this looks like it actually might be fun for everyone. I think I will go on this run....M

[MendoZJ]

Which trails are open up there now? I thought they closed the whole forest.

[DEADMEAT]

just following this thread........when the details are figured out I will be there. remember this is my first time out so I dont know what trails my jeep is capable of but Im just happy to be going

Jr. , lets start by figuring what trails you wana hit. if anyone has any good suggestions, please put it out here. than we'll just have to call the forest service and see what we can do.

PM me if there is anything you want me to help out on organizing

[Roger]

SBNF Road Closures

Okay everyone,

The total road closure ended 08 Nov 2007; however there still are many roads closed. I'm going to be tied up all day so I can't call the Discovery center.

If someone else could make the call and report back to the group,that would be great! Here's the phone numbers:909-382-2790 or 909-866-3437

My Cj should be out of the hospital today good as new!! Yea!

[paulhead]

just following this thread........when the details are figured out I will be there. remember this is my first time out so I dont know what trails my jeep is capable of but Im just happy to be going

Maybe I missed it but what are you running on your rig? 4"? 33's? If so you should be ok for Bull.

[Old Fart]

FIRE CLOSURE AREAS

You MUST check with the Big Bear Discovery Center to determine the specific closure area. Please call (909) 382-2790


Butler 2 Fire - Road, Trail and Recreational Facility Closures. (Butler Fire Closure Map PDF)
Butler Peak Lookout
Hanna Flat Trail
Hanna Flat Campground
Big Pine Flat Campground
Grays Peak Group Campground
Ironwood Group Campground
Big Pine Flat Group Campground
Little Bear Springs Trail Camp
1W05 Grays Peak Trail & Trailhead
1W06 Grays Peak
1W17 Redonda Ridge
2N06X Lower Larga Flat
2N13 Snowslide and spur roads / Trails
3N11 Wright Mine
3N14 Coxey and spur roads/trails closed at 3N12 north of Fawnskin to 3N16 at Big Pine Flats.
3N16 Holcomb Valley - Closed from Holcomb Creek Crossing (3N93) to Green Valley Lake Road
3N93 Holcomb Creek
Pacific Crest Trail - Big Bear Area- The PCT will remain closed from the 3N16/Holcomb Creek crossing on the west side (approx. 2 miles northeast of Crab Flats), to 2N09 (Polique Canyon Rd.) . Little Bear Springs trail camp is closed to public use, due to Butler 2 Fire. A PCT trail reroute is being developed.

Grass Valley Fire - Road Closures (Grass Valley & Slide Fire Closure Map PDF)

2N33 Pilot Rock From State Highway 173 to 2N34/2N37 Junction. Forest users can access 2N33 from the Lake Silverwood dam.
2N33 Pilot Rock - 1/2 mile west of 2N37/ 2N34 junction.
2N34 Tunnel Two from Junction of 2N37 to Fairway Drive
2N34A Tunnel Two Spur from Sonoma Road to 2N34
2N37 Miller Canyon 1 mile below the 2N34
3W14 OHV Route - State Highway 173 to 2N37

Slide Fire - Road, Trail and Recreational Facility Closures (Grass Valley & Slide Fire Closure Map PDF)

1W17 Redonda Ridge OHV Route
2W07 from 3N34 Junction to Fisherman’s Campground
Fredalba Trail from Forest boundary
2N13 Snow Slide from Green Valley Campground to Fawnskin (3N14) (overlap Butler 2 closure)
2N13D Crafts Peak from intersection with 2N13 to Crafts Peak
2N16 Green Valley Campground from the Green Valley Campground to its terminus
2N19 Little Green Valley (including spurs 2N19A, 2N19B, and 2N19C) from intersection with Green Valley Lake Road near Camp Cedar Crest to Meadow Lane near the Green Valley Campground
2N23 Allison Ranch Road from SR18 to the Scout Ranch
2N33Y Tent Peg
3N16 Holcomb Valley from Green Valley Lake Road to Holcomb Creek Crossing
3N34B Crab Flats Spur from 3N16 to its terminus
Green Valley Campground
Crab Flats Campground
Fisherman’s Group Campground
Tent Peg Group Campground

[Jr. Bonner]

Maybe I missed it but what are you running on your rig? 4"? 33's? If so you should be ok for Bull.

yeah 33s, I think the lift is 4 inch.

[Jr. Bonner]

Jr. , lets start by figuring what trails you wana hit. if anyone has any good suggestions, please put it out here. than we'll just have to call the forest service and see what we can do.

PM me if there is anything you want me to help out on organizing

I sent you a P.M.

[OffRoadFreak]

I haven't seen a date yet on this thread......sunday works for me. john bull sunday the 25th???

[Roger]

No one seems to have taken charge to put this together. I realize I'm a new guy, but how about this:

Date: Friday Novermber 23, 2007
Time: 8:30 AM
Location: Stater Brothers parking lot in Big Bear
Communication: CB ch 14 or email me privatly for my cell Phone number
Trail: 2N02 (Start at Baldwin Lake) - to Rattlesnake Canyon to Hwy 247 East on Hwy 247 to Pipes Canyon to Burns Canyon to Cactus Flats.
Trail rating: Easy to moderate

This trail is well away from the recent fires and should be open