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    [COLOR=#400040]I gotta get me one![/COLOR]
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    [COLOR=#400040][COLOR=#800080]http://www.metalstorm.com/release/future-weapons-400k.html[/COLOR][/COLOR]
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    Neato! Does it come with a ramrod? Seriously, how do you reload the thing?

    EDIT: ok I see that in the handgun model, the bullets are loaded in the breach/ barrel/ magazine from behind. So once you blow off all your rounds (in 1/2 second), it's slow, manual reloading time.

    The technology definitely has its possibilities--good and bad.

    Since they hyped it so much, I'd like address some of that.

    First, to say that the basic firing mechanism of the gun has changed very little since its inception is b.s. Maybe very little since the 1800s, early 1900s.

    Also, certain mechanical designs (the Colt 1911 being one of my favorites) have demonstrated a degree of reliability and durability that I'd put above anything with a microchip. Electronic circuits have their own vulnerabilities. If you had a pocket full of them and could switch them out quickly, that would help.

    I first read about this concept back in the 90s. Ok, imagine a firearm that uses biometrics to identify its registered owner before allowing itself to fire. Now imagine a firearm tha law enforcement could disable with an electronic signal (or EMP for that matter). Does anyone imagine that hackers would not be all over that stuff? Like a cellphone, it could be used to track usage and even its location. (Most people know about the GPS, but are probably unaware that their cellphone can be used to watch or listen to them, and the only way to disable this "feature" is to remove the battery).
    Last edited by inVERt'D; 03-01-10, 12:38 PM.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by inVERt'D View Post
      I first read about this concept back in the 90s. Ok, imagine a firearm that uses biometrics to identify its registered owner before allowing itself to fire. Now imagine a firearm tha law enforcement could disable with an electronic signal (or EMP for that matter). Does anyone imagine that hackers would not be all over that stuff? Like a cellphone, it could be used to track usage and even its location. (Most people know about the GPS, but are probably unaware that their cellphone can be used to watch or listen to them, and the only way to disable this "feature" is to remove the battery).
      Well $hit . . . I was planning on adding one of these to the weapons cache that I have buried out back, but now with all this talk, you've got me thinking . . . hackers or uncle Sam might use that thing to locate my bunker or to spy on me . . . guess I'll just have to stick with RPGs and the M-240Bs that are laying around!!! Do you think my cell phone has reported back to uncle Sam about how I enjoy eating Cheetos while watching midget porn and listening to Weird Al Yankovic? Scary stuff!!!
      That which does not kill me postpones the inevitable.

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      • #4
        Schmo, I think the term is "vain imagination" but yeah, we keep tabs on the Cheetos habit... I am not interested in any weapon that can be disabled by an EMP or a focused radio wave, these are too easy for anybody to whip up in the garage and play with on the street. When the microchip gets the axe, I don't want to be crapping my pants like every other technophile out there, and I don't want to be figuring out (right then) how I'm gonna keep all my stuff (read: food, water, daughter..) from the wandering bands of scavengers... :devil:
        :gun: my rifle is not illegal, it's just undocumented... :gun:

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Kodiak Spirit View Post
          Schmo, I think the term is "vain imagination" but yeah, we keep tabs on the Cheetos habit.
          Not sure about the whole vain imagination thing . . . did that come up in church last week or something? :dunno: I googled it but everything that came up had to do with religious arguments (nature vs nuture, creation vs evolution, etc) . . . I didn't see anything about Cheetos, midgets, or Weird Al. For the record . . . I was only kidding . . . I don't really like Cheetos . . . I'm more of a Frito guy!!!


          Originally posted by Kodiak Spirit View Post
          When the microchip gets the axe, I don't want to be crapping my pants like every other technophile out there, and I don't want to be figuring out (right then) how I'm gonna keep all my stuff (read: food, water, daughter..) from the wandering bands of scavengers... :devil:
          hehehe . . . obviously my sarcasm is not needed here I'll admit to a few desert dweller tendencies, but you guys crack me up!!!
          Last edited by Schmo; 03-02-10, 10:09 AM.
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          • #6
            I know you were kidding, I get yer sarcasm and follow it with my own *dry* humor. The vain imagination thing is what I run into here in prison all the time, it's basically when people, inmates, individuals, believe that they are so important (vain) that whatever the latest scandle, conspiracy or scheme is, it's all about them (imagination) the idea is that they can't see past themselves (ego) about anything and so when it comes to any type of change (like gas prices going up) it MUST be all about them! (they raised the gas prices so I can't afford my Cheetos!)

            But I wasn't really intending that in your direction, I was agreeing with your sarcastic point of view in response to the earlier post.

            As far as the wandering hoard that will consume the land and ultimately want all the Oreo's I have stockpiled; well that's gospel right there, and they are gonna get nothing but .223 for their troubles! :devil: I take that crap very serious indeed.
            :gun: my rifle is not illegal, it's just undocumented... :gun:

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Kodiak Spirit View Post
              I know you were kidding, I get yer sarcasm and follow it with my own *dry* humor.

              As far as the wandering hoard that will consume the land and ultimately want all the Oreo's I have stockpiled; well that's gospel right there, and they are gonna get nothing but .223 for their troubles! :devil: I take that crap very serious indeed.
              Right on!!! But I must question your choice of post apocalyptic munchies . . . Twinkies have a much better shelf life than Oreos and go better without milk which will be hard to come by. Just some food for thought.
              Last edited by Schmo; 03-02-10, 03:29 PM.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Kodiak Spirit View Post
                As far as the wandering hoard that will consume the land and ultimately want all the Oreo's I have stockpiled; well that's gospel right there, and they are gonna get nothing but .223 for their troubles! :devil: I take that crap very serious indeed.
                x2 what my desert dwelling brother said. That's why we don't live in the "Big City". Oh - and to add to the .223, 9mm, 45 auto, 00 buck shot. 45 long colt, 38 special, well you get the idea. Call me paranoid, but I call me ready....
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Roger View Post
                  x2 what my desert dwelling brother said. That's why we don't live in the "Big City". Oh - and to add to the .223, 9mm, 45 auto, 00 buck shot. 45 long colt, 38 special, well you get the idea. Call me paranoid, but I call me ready....

                  I'm right there with you guys on this one . . . desert dweller or not. It wouldn't be a bad idea for me to stock up on water and some food that will keep, but I'm pretty well prepared when it comes to fire power. I pity the fool that tries to take my twinkies! One nice thing about living in the city . . . there's plenty of whiney Prius driving pansies that won't last a minute when the shit goes down . . . and I'll be here to inherit their twinkies too!
                  Last edited by Schmo; 03-02-10, 12:50 PM.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Kodiak Spirit View Post
                    I know you were kidding, I get yer sarcasm and follow it with my own *dry* humor. The vain imagination thing is what I run into here in prison all the time, it's basically when people, inmates, individuals, believe that they are so important (vain) that whatever the latest scandle, conspiracy or scheme is, it's all about them (imagination) the idea is that they can't see past themselves (ego) about anything and so when it comes to any type of change (like gas prices going up) it MUST be all about them! (they raised the gas prices so I can't afford my Cheetos!).

                    But I wasn't really intending that in your direction, I was agreeing with your sarcastic point of view in response to the earlier post.
                    Wow, thank you for the thoughtful analysis. You got all that from my post? We've never even met and yet you've got me all figured out. I had know idea I was so transparent. Well, perhaps my ego-centrism, narcissism, and other deep personal flaws deserve sarcasm, but I'd actually thought (at least on the conscious level) that the OP's post deserved more serious comment and discussion than Oreos vs Twinkies. Obviously my distorted perceptions and petty personal vendettas have gotten me off-track once again--I apologize to all for polluting this post with my worthless rubbish.

                    FWIW, while I have encountered stale Oreos, I have yet to come across a stale Twinkie.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by inVERt'D View Post
                      FWIW, while I have encountered stale Oreos, I have yet to come across a stale Twinkie.

                      Thank you for your support in the Twinkie vs. Oreo debate . . . although there's really no question, twinkies are the obvious choice for post apocalyptic munchies.
                      That which does not kill me postpones the inevitable.

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                      • #12
                        Once again my genius is simply overlooked.

                        Sorry that the thread got hijacked by the way, the metal storm guns are kinda neat in a one shot wonder kinda way.

                        I present the concept of stock rotation people! The Twinkies (and Cheetos) that get stored away for the apocalyptic consumption may stay soft (and crunchy) but my Oreo's are constantly being consumed and rotated and thus a fresh supply is always on hand. Just like my ammo
                        :gun: my rifle is not illegal, it's just undocumented... :gun:

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