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    I didn't know there were other Jeepers with an interest in marine life. Kevin's tank is beautiful, and somebody else seemed interested. I thought I'd start a new thread on marine tanks!

    I have a question for any of you fish people who've been doing this longer than me. We're having a problem with micro bubbles blowing into the tank. It's making the nitrates high and our coral (star polyps) sad. We're keeping up with regular water changes, but have also noticed an increase in red algae (too much nutrients in the water... we have a protein skimmer). We think we forgot to use tap water conditioner in a couple water changes which started the red algae growth. It's slowed down greatly after the last couple water changes.

    Anyways, here's a description of our setup:

    ~40 Gallon acrylic tank, overflow siphon to pull water off the back of the tank down to the ~20 gallon sump which has some filter medium in one side, and a protein skimmer in the other. From there it is pumped (big pump) back up to the tank through a powerhead.

    The system only has negative pressure (to pull in air) from the sump to the pump. Once it's at the pump, it's positive pressure and would leak water, not suck in air. We can't figure out a good way to test where the air is coming in on this small section. We've replaced the hose, new clamps and that didn't fix it, so we're thinking it's a fitting, but on what end? pump or sump?

    Any ideas?

    (If you want, I can take pictures of any part of it to help aid my crappy description).
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    Damn. I'm a pro with freshwater, but those are definitely marine issues. I use the book "Freshwater Aquariums for Dummies" as a reference for diagnosing water conditions and illnesses. It's laid out really well. I'm sure there's a marine counterpart to that book. Good luck! Post some pics!
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    • #3
      we could go back and forth forever trying to figure that out Matt, micro bubbles are not gonna effect the nitrates, maybe ph, im sure youv already found these but here, im jeeper on this one, http://www.sdreefs.com/forums/
      jeeper xj om here, http://www.reefcentral.org/forums/fo...php?forumid=50
      xjkevin on here, http://www.socalireefs.com/forums/index.php
      Last edited by xjkevin; 04-16-08, 09:53 AM.

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      • #4
        Oh Geez, I thought you meant THESE!!!

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        • #5
          Originally posted by USMC 0369 View Post
          Oh Geez, I thought you meant THESE!!!
          ]
          hahaha, me too!
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          • #6
            Sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeet. As Far As The Tank Goes, Try Monster Fish Keepers.com For Help. The People On That Site Keep Exotic Fresh And Marine Critters And Really Know Their Stuff. I Keep 2 Tanks Full Of Mean Freshwater Killers In My House And I Have Learned Quite A Bit From The People On There.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by xjkevin View Post
              micro bubbles are not gonna effect the nitrates[/url]
              HA! That's why I assumed it was a marine issue. I welcome bubbles in my tank because bubbles mean oxygen.

              Since you are using a sump type pump, a couple of things come to mind for the bubbles. Some pumps have a valve in them to let in air on purpose to oxygenate the water. I know mine does and I use it. If the pump doesn't, does the powerhead? Another thing that comes to mind is the pump placement. Is your pump on the opposite side of the sump as the inlet tube? It's a longshot, I know but I've seen it done.

              If you have high nitrates and high nutrient levels and you do regular water changes, make sure you're feeding your fish the right amount of food. If you are, make sure they're actually eating all of it. There are a couple of illnesses that will cause your fish not to eat very much.
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              • #8
                heres the way i plummed my 60 cube, i even drilled the holes in the tank, and built the overflow, i run a refugium in the center and the macro algea helps takes care of the nitrates, cheato, or coulupura, will do it Matt, maybe more flow will help with the cyano, and red slime, try a koralia 1 or 2, and get an RODI that was one of my best investments, besides a calcium reactor, or you can get a phosban reactor to help with the algea also, not to expensive and very effective, do you do weekly water changes? are you yousing synthetic or nsw, scripps? i use tropic marin, or red sea pro, as for the bubbles id have to be there, i just went through it with my wifes tank, i ended up using a bunch of sponges-media, throughout the baffles in the sump, how is the water level in the return part of the sump, if hers is even a bit low it creates a whirlpool and sucks air,

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                • #9
                  Here, you fish geeks...
                  http://www.aquaria.info/
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                  • #10
                    HEY, i prefer reef geek!!





                    Originally posted by rat patrol View Post
                    Here, you fish geeks...
                    http://www.aquaria.info/

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by xjkevin View Post
                      heres the way i plummed my 60 cube, i even drilled the holes in the tank, and built the overflow, i run a refugium in the center and the macro algea helps takes care of the nitrates, cheato, or coulupura, will do it Matt, maybe more flow will help with the cyano, and red slime, try a koralia 1 or 2, and get an RODI that was one of my best investments, besides a calcium reactor, or you can get a phosban reactor to help with the algea also, not to expensive and very effective, do you do weekly water changes? are you yousing synthetic or nsw, scripps? i use tropic marin, or red sea pro, as for the bubbles id have to be there, i just went through it with my wifes tank, i ended up using a bunch of sponges-media, throughout the baffles in the sump, how is the water level in the return part of the sump, if hers is even a bit low it creates a whirlpool and sucks air,
                      Wow. That looks well thought out. How does it work though? I can tell which one is the output from the pump but I'm lost on the sump system. Shouldn't it be low on the back of the tank or am I thinking of a different type of system? What are the pipes on the sides for?
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                      • #12
                        Hey Materdaddy,

                        I keep it simple and play with "fresh water". 14' x 7' pond,
                        18' long stream with 3 small waterfalls, 700 gallons. Very relaxing!

                        Mitch



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                        • #13
                          Very nice!
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by rat patrol View Post
                            Here, you fish geeks...
                            http://www.aquaria.info/
                            Yeah! Fish belong on a PLATE! Its not humane to keep them in a tank! Unless you're fattening them up and what-not. :hide:
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                            • #15
                              dude! lookout! that Mojave Toad is gonna git yer fish!
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