Longarm vrs Shortarm

[silvergoat]

I really like your jeep what shocks are those? Do you think that if you had 3.5" springs instead of 4.5" it would be more stable going up those steep inclines?

Thank you, the shocks are Bilstein 5150,s up front and 7100 in the rear. I think if I went to 2.5 inch springs it would help alittle but that climb would still be spooky.

[Jeeperator]

I really like your jeep what shocks are those? Do you think that if you had 3.5" springs instead of 4.5" it would be more stable going up those steep inclines?

[silvergoat]

So you had problems going up this? How high are your lift springs? I read alot that short arm suspension shouldnt be over 4" or else jacking will occure.

My springs are 4.5". Problems going up? you bet, these pics do more justice to the climb and how steep it really is.

[silvergoat]

cool picture. So to sum up this thread is it based on personal experience?

I will be going to a longarm setup sometime, becouse I do like steep vertical climbs.To me it seems the longarms let you climb with more control and stability. But for most every other type of wheeling I feel very confident in the set up I run. So I say wheel what ya want and enjoy what ya wheel.And this is based on my personal experience.

[Jeeperator]

All the jeeps with long arms that were with me on this run had no problem on this climb, In the pic you can see that my rear suspension has unloaded. The pic was taken after a quick shift into neutral to bring me back down.

So you had problems going up this? How high are your lift springs? I read alot that short arm suspension shouldnt be over 4" or else jacking will occure.

[womb raider 940]

All the jeeps with long arms that were with me on this run had no problem on this climb, In the pic you can see that my rear suspension has unloaded. The pic was taken after a quick shift into neutral to bring me back down.

cool picture. So to sum up this thread is it based on personal experience?

[silvergoat]

Yes he has a full traction long arm trilink in the back. He did say it made a difference as far as the side to side funky motion that you get when your suspension goes up and down. But as far as the jacking you get when going up steep inclines I think the longer arm is the remedy for that.

All the jeeps with long arms that were with me on this run had no problem on this climb, In the pic you can see that my rear suspension has unloaded. The pic was taken after a quick shift into neutral to bring me back down.

[aw12345]

Some of the long arms do that also Rubicon express long arm is notorious for unloading. A front locker helps a lot too instead of trying to push the tires up it will simply climb up makes a big difference.
Trying to get the front tires up a rock or ledge with selectable front locker on or of will show you how much of a difference it makes

[Jeeperator]

Curtis, Fred who we wheeled with saturday has a trilink on the top of his rear axle if I am not mistaken, could ask him how he likes it but to me its the way to stop the back end from kicking/ jerking sideways will make a shortarm lift behave much more like a good long arm kit

Yes he has a full traction long arm trilink in the back. He did say it made a difference as far as the side to side funky motion that you get when your suspension goes up and down. But as far as the jacking you get when going up steep inclines I think the longer arm is the remedy for that.

[curtis]

I know guys with FT longarm set ups. I was wondering about the FT short arm tri link.

[aw12345]

Curtis, Fred who we wheeled with saturday has a trilink on the top of his rear axle if I am not mistaken, could ask him how he likes it but to me its the way to stop the back end from kicking/ jerking sideways will make a shortarm lift behave much more like a good long arm kit

[mrchips]

I have the FTLong Arm syst with the Tri link using 4.5 Rubicon express springs, and it is an awesome system. great street manners, and the flex is great. I would highly recommend it

[curtis]

Art have you talk to any one who has done the fulltracion trilink? I was thinking of doing it. what about pro comp,rock krawer,or fabtech?

[aw12345]

Here is my take on the whole debate after wheeling with some of the guys with long arm suspensions and so forth. the biggest reason a long arm rides better is that it does away with the rear trackbar. I.E the back and stops shaking and jerking on or offroad.
As long as the lift is under 5" the control arm angle is maybe 5 degrees sharper on a short arm suspension take a straight edge lay it along the control arm and see where it points really not that much different then a long arm suspension. Put a tri link like the Fulltraction one in the rear use good control arms with Johny joints and I don't think there is that much difference in ride quality, however by then your
shortarm kit is kinda expensive. On the positive side of this is that you can basically built it part by part. Is pretty much what I did, once my Curry anti rock goes in and I add the Fulltraction trilink it will be a sweet ride

[RAT]

K my man! Wrong type of strap! This type fer those wheeling impaired drivers like this guy.

HEY! I know that guy!