Mounting Tires on beadlocks

[nagal]

So no one in my area will mount tires on bead locks. Not a big deal except now I have to mount them. Also not a big deal. I have the spoons and tyreplyers. Seems fairly straight foward process but with potential for lots of cussing.

Any tips/tricks?

[cjdirtbiker]

Use windex to lube the bead. Make sure the opposite side of the bead you're working on is up into the recessed center of the wheel - critical.

Take small purchases on the bead as you work it onto the rim. A second set of hands may help. Use a rubber mallet if necessary.

They should pop right on, easy as pie! Harry Lewellen of Staun helped me install my internal bead locks and mount the tires. Took us 40 minutes for the first one, 20 for the second. Just mounting the tire was about 5 minutes each.

BTW, where did you get our spoons? I still need a pair.

[nagal]

Chris, thanks for the tips.

Windex is better than dish soap?

As for my spoons, they were part of the tyerplyer kit I got, well getting have to pick it up friday when I pick up the beadlocks.

[cjdirtbiker]

Chris, thanks for the tips.

Windex is better than dish soap?

As for my spoons, they were part of the tyerplyer kit I got, well getting have to pick it up friday when I pick up the beadlocks.

Windex dries without a residue. Dish soap is fine too, just not as convenient, you'll have to mix up a batch with some water. Windex just sprays on from your bottle. We've been using it for years for bike tires, Harry was pretty impressed with how easily it made mounting.

I don't know what they used at the tire store last time, but it etched my wheels where it ran - the Bastards!!

Your spoons/tyreplyer kit - $250??
Geez that's a lot for a tool you hope you never have to use huh? I recently picked up one of those tools that pulls a valve stem into place from the outside. It a long rod looking thing with a threaded socket for the valve stem. On the trail you can get by with driving up on a tire to break the bead, but the tyreplier is really a handy tool. I think Erik carries one in his rig.

I've been waiting for Harry to get them in stock for a deal. I think he mentioned he had them the last time we spoke, for a little less.

[Old Fart]

Shouldn't even need a spoon. Remember - you're mounting from the BACK.

I use Simple Green 50/50 with water in a spray bottle. Lay the tire down on the ground, spray the BACK bead - place one edge of the rim FRONT into the tire at an angle.

Here's the important part - there's a "valley" in the rim - match that up with the upper bead of the tire (you'll probably have to pick UP on the rim at this point).

Take a dead blow hammer and beat the rim HARD - it will pop "into" the tire - pops right in.

I usually turn the rim/tire assembly over onto a bar stool at this point, use 2 big flat screwdrivers to pry the outer bead into position on the beadlock flange. Once there - place the lock ring into place and get the (4) longer bolts that (should have) come with the rims. If they didn't come with "starter bolts - STOP AND GO GET SOME

3/8" impact gun the starter bolts until almost touching the rim, install the remaining bolts (snug), R&R the starter bolts with the remaining 4 "normal bolts - start tightening around the circle. Torque depending on the bolt size - 20 ft/lbs for the 5/16NF's on my TrailReadys.

(At this point you'll realize that you forgot to install the valve stem. Cuss in as many languages as you know (or _think_ you know), dissassemble and do over).

Pull the valve stem out, pop the lower bead on with high pressure air. Check for leaks (especially around where the valve stem seats to the rim, as you probably had to prove your manhood and over tightened it - and if so it WILL leak like a sieve) (learn new cuss words, repeat all of the above)

[nagal]

Your spoons/tyreplyer kit - $250??
Geez that's a lot for a tool you hope you never have to use huh?

Thats the kit but thats not the price I paid. I got mine through Dukes69. Still a bit pricey but when it comes time to removing tires, I hear nothing but good words on the tyerpylers.

OldFart,

Thanks for the info! I am getting a little confused on your description so I will re-read it a few times and see if it sinks in. If not, I'll post some dumbass question for sure

[Old Fart]

Worse comes to worse, give me a PM and I'll shoot you my number

[nagal]

It makes perfect sense. I just had to stop eating my lunch long enough so I could fully concentrate on it

[Old Fart]

Don't feel too bad - I had my Tyrepliers, an assortment of spoons, several bottles of spray - and _still_ spent a few hours cussing at it until I realized what I was doing wrong

Pay attention to the valve stem part if you have steel stems like TR uses - they go from "snug" to "leak like a SOB" in about a 1/4 turn!)

[NAILER341]

which beadlocks did you get, nagal?
they are pretty easy to work with if you got the champions. i can do mine in about 30 minutes each or less.
be sure to put anti seize on the bolts.

[nagal]

I got the champions, go pick them Friday

Anti seize is on the list of stuff to pick up. For once I actually read someones directions

[NAILER341]

you you have a compressor and a 1/4 drive air ratchet in your garage?
those are handy for this.
a torque wrench @ 14# is needed as well.
or if you have an inch pound wrench~165 in. lb. torque.

[nagal]

I know I need to check my torque wrench to see if it goes low enough but I have no problem buying a new one if needed.

An air ratchet sure would be nice, might just have to get one of those too

[Matt Pascoe]

I mounted 35" MTR's on Champion beadlocks and with a little simple green the inner bead popped on just by stepping on it. I can't really picture how a deadblow hammer would be needed, maybe different tires might be a tighter fit.

For all those bolts... I chucked a 1/4" extension into my cordless drill, set the clutch pretty light and used that to snug them all evenly down. Then used a torque wrench to 14#.

And yes, of course, I forgot the valve stem on the first one

[nagal]

And yes, of course, I forgot the valve stem on the first one

If I do this after all the warnings, I am going to get really pissed