Any thoughts on my lift?

[Shadly1]

CV Driveshaft - HELP!!! As recommended, I checked into Tom Woods . . . their prices were better than RubiconExpress, but I'm confused as RE has the DrvSft for $400 and it says that my Rubi will need the CV Yoke which is another $105 . . . the Tom Woods site has a CV DrvSft (1310) with a CV Socket Flange for $300. I'm clueless as to all this and would love some insight as to what exactly I need for my Rubi seeing that is has the SYE and which set up, company, etc is the best.

I know a little bit about this, but I'm no expert. A CV yoke is just a plain old yoke with shaved down shoulders. A CV flange is a flat plate instead of a yoke. A CV flange adapter is then used to connect to the CV joint. In my opinion, you should skip the flange entirely if you can and use u-bolt yokes. Those flanges add an inch per flange assembly. You need all the inches you can get with such a short rear driveshaft. I have a flange on my 8.8 rearend and it really serves no purpose. I just left it there so I didn't have to mess with the pinion nut and potentially jack up the pinion depth. It's temporary on mine anyway until I get the SYE and that's waiting on the AW4... that's another story.


Flange.


Yoke.(left side of the pic, in the middle)

Rear Bumper w/ Tire Carrier - I've kinda narrowed it down and would love to hear from those of you that have had these products . . . I still like the Rock Hard ($725), but the tire seems to stick out pretty far and it doesn't seem to have the telescoping feature to bring it in closer to the Jeep. But at this point, I'm kinda leaning toward the Shrockworks ($930) one that Chips mentioned . . . I'd love to talk to some people that have them but it sure looks great . . . It's got everything the Rock Hard does, but also has extensions that protect the corners of the tub (uh. . .um . . . Josh) and the telescoping feature so the tire doesn't stick way out. I was kinda thinking that the difference might not be worth extra $200 bucks, but after checking out how much those corner guards are, I'm thinking a bit of prevention might be worthwhile.

I have no input for you, but thanks for the opinions. I'm shopping for one of these right now.

Tires and Wheels - Hoping to find a nice deal on a wheel and tire package . . . my only dilema is that I still do like my Rubi wheels which means that I'll have to spend the money on something that I like as much or more . . . the black steelies just aren't doin' it for me!!!

There's a company out there that makes Rubi style beadlocks. I forget their name, but I saw the wheels at the SEMA show in November. They split in the centers and lock both beads in with a hard rubber center. Those hard rubber centers also act as a guard for your wheel so your wheel lip will never come into contact with the ground should you lose all air pressure. I wish I could remember the name. I'm sure it's no "sweet deal", but that would be an ideal setup!

[Schmo]

I know a little bit about this, but I'm no expert. A CV yoke is just a plain old yoke with shaved down shoulders. A CV flange is a flat plate instead of a yoke. A CV flange adapter is then used to connect to the CV joint. In my opinion, you should skip the flange entirely if you can and use u-bolt yokes. Those flanges add an inch per flange assembly. You need all the inches you can get with such a short rear driveshaft. I have a flange on my 8.8 rearend and it really serves no purpose. I just left it there so I didn't have to mess with the pinion nut and potentially jack up the pinion depth. It's temporary on mine anyway until I get the SYE and that's waiting on the AW4... that's another story.


Flange.


Yoke.(left side of the pic, in the middle)?

I've already got the SYE on my Rubi . . . does that make a difference as to the set up I need to go with?

[Shadly1]

I've already got the SYE on my Rubi . . . does that make a difference as to the set up I need to go with?

Well, if you have a CV yoke already, you wouldn't need to buy one. It's personal preference as to what setup you end up with. There are pros and cons to both. I like the yoke style because I can use a longer driveshaft and that means decreased angles. The flange style allows for interchangeability and more strength if you buy an upgraded shaft.

If you already have a SYE, what are you using? Are you going from a single cardan style to a double cardan? If so, the absolute easiest and cheapest route would be to get the double cardan version of the style you already have.

[Schmo]

\ CV yoke , flange, single cardan, double cardan?

Yeah . . . that's mostly Greek to me . . . I've got whatever a stock Rubi comes with and want whatever would be the best set up (without breaking the bank of course) to go with a 4" lift and 33's. Dude, I just learned that the sway bar and track bar are two different things!

[Shadly1]

Yeah . . . that's mostly Greek to me . . . I've got whatever a stock Rubi comes with and want whatever would be the best set up (without breaking the bank of course) to go with a 4" lift and 33's. Dude, I just learned that the sway bar and track bar are two different things!

Ahh. I have a YJ, so I don't know what you got on there right now. I'd assume it's a flange since those are the easiest on an assembly line.

Single Cardan- One u-joint. Everything on my YJ is single cardan. Most driveshafts are single cardan.

Double Cardan- Two u-joints at one end. It's what makes a CV joint a CV joint.

Your stock Rubi stuff should be plenty good for a dual purpose vehicle unless you REALLY beat on it.

[Schmo]

Your stock Rubi stuff should be plenty good for a dual purpose vehicle unless you REALLY beat on it.

I just need a longer drive shaft to go with the lift so I don't have to drop the belly pan.

[Schmo]

Check out this deal . . . http://www.4x4groupbuy.com/store/rub...ombo-p-40.html

I've got an email out to them to see what they'd substitute for the SYE as I have one on my Rubi, but was thinking at that price, I may go with the RE kit as I think this is their best Short Arm kit and comes with the upper adjustable control arms, etc. Aren't the SYE's a couple hundred bucks? Maybe I can get them to throw the RE Monotube shocks to match instead? Seems like I'd be getting the upgraded kit for about the same price as what I was planning with the FullTraction Kit.



Rubicon Express RE7000 4.5 Super-Flex Kit & SYE Combo
[RE7000] $1,549.95

INCLUDES:

Free Advance Adapters SYE and Tom Woods Custom Driveshaft.

Rubicon Express - RE7000 4.5" Superflex - System for Jeep TJ Wranglers.
The Rubicon Express TJ Wrangler Super-Flex Kit is the ultimate suspension for TJ?s running the factory suspension geometry. A complete suspension system, the Rubicon Express Super-Flex kit is offered in 4.5 lift height. Combining its superior flexibility and handling, your Jeep will have the on and off road prowess you?re looking for. Included in the kit are Rubicon Express' Super-Flex control arms, a unique adjustable control arm designed to increase flexibility and isolate the body from road noise. Also included are 4.5 springs, brake lines, and an adjustable front trackbar. With the Rubicon Express 4.5 spring, this system will clear 33" tires easily and 35" tires with the inclusion of a 1" body lift. The Rubicon Express 3.5 spring will clear 33" tires. Note the installation of a slip yoke eliminator and CV driveshaft on the stock NV231 transfer case is recommended. Rubicon Express has years of Jeep Suspension Building experience under their belt!

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[womb raider 940]

so many choices.....just buy something already......

[Schmo]

so many choices.....just buy something already......

Settle down Sparky . . . I'm getting there

[Kodiak Spirit]

I thought Rubicons had a fixed yoke transfer case... :dunno:

it sure would be nice to save the dough if you dont need it...

[Materdaddy]

Check out this deal . . . http://www.4x4groupbuy.com/store/rub...ombo-p-40.html

I've got an email out to them to see what they'd substitute for the SYE as I have one on my Rubi, but was thinking at that price, I may go with the RE kit as I think this is their best Short Arm kit and comes with the upper adjustable control arms, etc. Aren't the SYE's a couple hundred bucks? Maybe I can get them to throw the RE Monotube shocks to match instead? Seems like I'd be getting the upgraded kit for about the same price as what I was planning with the FullTraction Kit.



Rubicon Express RE7000 4.5 Super-Flex Kit & SYE Combo
[RE7000] $1,549.95

INCLUDES:

Free Advance Adapters SYE and Tom Woods Custom Driveshaft.

Rubicon Express - RE7000 4.5" Superflex - System for Jeep TJ Wranglers.
The Rubicon Express TJ Wrangler Super-Flex Kit is the ultimate suspension for TJ?s running the factory suspension geometry. A complete suspension system, the Rubicon Express Super-Flex kit is offered in 4.5 lift height. Combining its superior flexibility and handling, your Jeep will have the on and off road prowess you?re looking for. Included in the kit are Rubicon Express' Super-Flex control arms, a unique adjustable control arm designed to increase flexibility and isolate the body from road noise. Also included are 4.5 springs, brake lines, and an adjustable front trackbar. With the Rubicon Express 4.5 spring, this system will clear 33" tires easily and 35" tires with the inclusion of a 1" body lift. The Rubicon Express 3.5 spring will clear 33" tires. Note the installation of a slip yoke eliminator and CV driveshaft on the stock NV231 transfer case is recommended. Rubicon Express has years of Jeep Suspension Building experience under their belt!

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If they can't take $$$ off of your price you could probably sell the SYE for $150-$200ish on craigslist/mjr/somewhere. It might be hard to get upwards of $200 because it's only ~$250 new. I know yours will be new but not selling it as a retailer automatically makes the price go down. That could help offset the cost of the kit. Good luck, and hurry up and buy something... this thread is 5 pages and nothing is actually happening!!!

[Schmo]

I thought Rubicons had a fixed yoke transfer case... :dunno:

it sure would be nice to save the dough if you dont need it...

You're probably right . . . I just know that the Rubi doesn't need the SYE. The guy told me he'd take $100 off the price . . . I plan to call this weekend to see if I can get a good package deal with the lift, wheels, tires, driveshaft, etc. Don't worry guys . . . this tread will be over soon!!!

I'm now leaning more towards the Rubicon Express 4.5" lift vs the Full Traction 4" as the RE is only about $300 more and comes with the upper adjustable control arms and if I do decide down the line to go to 35's I'd only need a 1" BL. Also a little extra clearance might not be bad once she's all loaded up with tools, tire carrier, winch, etc. Does anyone know if the upper control arms and extended brake lines are difficult to install? I think we did just about everything else when Josh got his lift and it wasn't too tough.

FYI . . . my fridge and bar will be full at the time I do the install if anyone would like to lend a hand!!!

[Shadly1]

You're probably right . . . I just know that the Rubi doesn't need the SYE. The guy told me he'd take $100 off the price . . . I plan to call this weekend to see if I can get a good package deal with the lift, wheels, tires, driveshaft, etc. Don't worry guys . . . this tread will be over soon!!!

I've seen those puppies online for $125. That's not bad. Who is it? I could use a deal on a CV shaft and SYE in a few months.

I'm now leaning more towards the Rubicon Express 4.5" lift vs the Full Traction 4" as the RE is only about $300 more and comes with the upper adjustable control arms and if I do decide down the line to go to 35's I'd only need a 1" BL. Also a little extra clearance might not be bad once she's all loaded up with tools, tire carrier, winch, etc. Does anyone know if the upper control arms and extended brake lines are difficult to install? I think we did just about everything else when Josh got his lift and it wasn't too tough.

Those items are very easy to install. Just make absolutely sure you have the skills(or a buddy with skills) to properly bleed your brakes when you're done and DEFINITELY pay attention to the torque specs.

FYI . . . my fridge and bar will be full at the time I do the install if anyone would like to lend a hand!!!

Dude, you're in Chatsworth...:bonk:

If you feel like dragging all that crap to Calico next month, I'm all over it!

[Schmo]

Well I struck out this weekend at the 4WheelParts sale, but just got thru ordering the Full Traction 4" Kit with the M-Force shocks and a Tom Wood's Rubicon Rear DriveShaft. No turning back now!!! Still looking for a good tire and wheel deal and still deciding between the Shrockworks and RockHard rear bumper/tire carrier.

[Geebo]

Hey Joe,, Finally brother...I,ve been waiting to hear those words..(I ordered it)LOL..Congrats lookin forward to seein the finished product!! Later Geeb,